stratosphere, last night the president made a cardinal mistake when you are speaking to millions and millions of people. you can't talk over your audience and you can't talk down to your audience yo you have to learn to talk to your audience and with mitt romney last night did competent communicated, he communicated, whether he was substantively correct or not on everything you can debate, you know, those issues and will be debated for the next couple of weeks but on key points mitt romney communicated and what he communicated is very simple, that i know what i am talking about, i can be president and do this job and do it better than the man who had it for the last four years and instead of coming back and saying in clear, coherent sort of sound bites, you are on, let me tell you why you are wrong, i have done a good job and tell you why i have done a good job, i think president obama when he had those opportunities, either punted and didn't want to, you know, go into the rough and tumable with the governor, which is surprising, because i wouldn't have expected that from him. >> rose: thank you, ben, thank you, david. >> thank you, charlie. >> rose: great to see you. back in a moment, stay with us.